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A Revelation Indeed!
I just finished reading the "I Hate You Out of Love" letter. Now here is a revelation indeed!
For example, the line "I am excited to know Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior, etc." Now this identifies with the Evangelistic proclamation. Also, "God does not have to see me in a mantilla at Mass" etc. is another line that reveals how this person has been de-Catholicized. "He loves me just as I am" is the mantra.
This person suggests focusing on "activities" rather than on the reverence God deserves from us as creatures, especially while attending the Sacrifice of the Mass.
The Pope, as far as this particular person is concerned, is never wrong, never scandalizes the people by his actions... and one is quite wrong to point it out.
Let us just leave this person to his or her activities in the world, while the rest of the "cult" (we traditionalists) sound the alarm for those interested in preserving intact the full Catholic Faith.
Dear Tradition In Action,
Thank you for your informative website. I am writing in response to the most recent entry in -What People Are Commenting- entitled, -I Hate You Out of Love-. These comments reflect a kind of diabolical disorientation that has pervaded the Catholic Church in recent years. I give you a lot of credit for publishing such comments. It shows the strength of your position in the face of accusations and threats, as evidenced by this person's complete inability to engage in any serious discussion about our Catholic Faith.
I was honestly embarrassed by some of the comments that this person made. They are based on a kind of -God loves me and that-s all that matters- type of mentality. For example, she states, "I am excited to know Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior." Does she really think that this is all that is required to be a good Catholic? This is plausible considering the denial of the Catholic Faith that is implicit in this statement.
Another example is when she states, "I can wear beautiful dressy pants to the Mass and know that God is not looking at that but looking into my heart and soul". Does she claim that God tells her what is right and wrong? Again, this type of personal revelation about our Lord has no precedent in the Catholic Faith. Further, it suggests a complete misunderstanding of the reverence that is owed to Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist.
She claims to have the extraordinary ability to read hearts and minds. For example, she states, "If you were truly happy with your lives and satisfied with your faith you would not feel the need to look for ways to make the Pope or any other Roman Catholic look poorly." By what charism does she claim this extraordinary power to read hearts and minds? I suppose she would say "in the Holy Spirit". However, this would undermine her position since it clearly has no precedent in the Catholic Faith.
She also claims to have religious authority in matters of faith and morals. For example, she states, "Just because you don't want to be with the Roman Catholic church and you want to be [in] your little Cult you feel the need to bring True Catholics down." By what authority does she speak? Is it 'in the name of Jesus' that she claims this authority to discern the True Faith. This seems plausible considering her previous comments.
Another claim she makes is the remarkable ability to unleash plagues upon other people. She states, "You are Not Catholics and you are Satanic and I plan to spread the word to everyone I can from high and low that this is [an] extremely dangerous and hate filled website." This statement seems to suggest that she is worthy to approach the throne of God and open the secret scroll thereby unleashing plagues upon the earth. As you may recall from the Book of Revelation, only Jesus Christ has that ability. Does she claim that she is equal to the Lamb of God?
The position your website takes of not opposing the papacy seems to cause her great agony. For example, she states, "If you were truly of God you would destroy this website or simply admit we don't like the Pope so we are going to do anything to destroy his memory." Why does she insist there are only two possibilities in the face of the current crisis in the Catholic Church? It seems that any other possibility would likely cause her great discomfort in her faith and cause her to rethink her position.
As you can see, this commentary reflects a kind of diabolical disorientation that has pervaded the Catholic Church. I thank you for publishing this commentary, as it has helped illustrate more clearly the current crisis in the Catholic Church.
To the I Hate You... Author
Maybe you have not read the prophets of our times and carefully seen what exactly took place at Vatican II. It is said that we are living in the time of the great apostasy and that the corruption will begin at the top. SSPX did recognize John Paul II as the true Pope although not necessarily agreeing with some decisions he made.
Do you really believe there would be so many wars and so much violence had Russia been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as she wishes to be done? Do you not believe there are people in Rome (cardinals, bishops) trying to prevent this from being done? The devil has infiltrated the Catholic Church at some of the highest levels. And Pope John Paul II may have had very good intentions, but with enough evil surrounding him at the highest levels, it would be nearly impossible to accomplish what needed to be accomplished.
I'm sure you are satisfied being a Catholic today; no one is teaching penance and suffering for the conversion of souls. And wearing pants to church... come on, read dress codes that were posted on churches 60 years ago. Do you think modesty in God's eyes just suddenly became more relaxed?
It may not bother you, but you don't know how little things affect the people around you, while the devil puts small evil thoughts into their heads.
You are being blindly led unfortunately by the leader of Rome. Read what SSPX teaches on the Church and you will see everything there as pure truth.
I find it hard to believe if you pray hard enough and ask for God's guidance, along with having a strong devotion to the Blessed Mother, you will not see the truth.
Thank you, Tradition in Action, for helping spread the word.
J.K. Represents Novus Ordo Followers
"JK's" comments [J.K. is the author of I Hate You... ] could be taken as the general sincere opinion of many active Novus Ordo Catholics who are involved in Catholic parish and school activities. The atmosphere in the Novus Ordo set-up is generally pleasant and accommodating, and many of those who attend services there are happy with the way things are and get upset when criticisms are leveled against the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, and the Pope. A common remark made is that the Church now is similar to what it was in Apostolic times.
Unfortunately the old Catechisms, the sayings of the Saints, the clear doctrine of the Church are not made available to them, or they are not interested in these. It is extremely difficult to reach out to them. A Catholic of Bombay, India did make an attempt when John Paul II died by circulating this letter which I reproduce below.
April 4, 2005
John Paul II - The Pope whom the world loved
and who loved the world
There can be no doubt that John Paul II loved the world and the world loved him. The TV, radio and newspapers - plus Liberals of all kinds - Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Schismatics, Protestants, Communists, Socialists, Agnostics and Freemasons ( The TV shows it all ) - they all loved him and feel represented by him.
This Pope's entire Pontificate was a huge success for the world, but a disaster for the True Catholic Church. John Paul II and the Great Pope Saint Pius X taught differently. While St Pius X called Modernism the synthesis of all heresies, John Paul II spent his time trying to reconcile Modernism with the true teachings of the Catholic Church. Popes do not contradict each other on such vital issues. It is absolutely incredible that any Catholic, more so a Pope, would go against the teaching of St Pius X on Modernism. That is why John Paul II is loved by Communists, Free-Masons and even Jews alike, though their only aim is to ridicule and destroy the Catholic Church.
Why was Our Lord crucified? Jesus refused to change his Father's message. Had he changed it, the Jews would have made him a king. On the other hand John Paul II has again and again gone against the true teachings of his predecessors i.e. all the 260 real Popes till Vatican Council II ( 1962 -64).
At this point of time it will suffice to recall what our Lord said to his disciples: If you had been of the world, the world would have loved its own; but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you. ( John 15: 19-20)
Does John Paul II fit this description? And so I end my tribute to John Paul II... and of course I know that you will also hate me for my tribute.
God bless you!
Posted August 24, 2006
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