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Shades of Gray

TIA,

Another aftermath of the WYD Krakow - btw, thanks for reporting on it (stations, suor Cristina, catechism)

Speaking to Polish religious orders in a private meeting, Francis told them to not look for the black and white, but discern the shades of gray.

“Some programs of priestly formation run the risk of educating in the light of overly clear and distinct ideas and, therefore, to act within limits and criteria that are rigidly defined in advance and that set aside concrete situations: this must be done, this mustn’t be done,” the pope said during the July 30 meeting he had with some 30 Jesuits.

He said priests and laity alike must be taught 'discernment,' because “in life, not everything is black over white or white over black. No! The shades of gray prevail in life. We must teach them to discern in this gray area.”

Discern and tolerate is the formula for the Mercy of Francis and all the Vatican II Popes.

Again, the tolerance of the post-Vatican II Church being taught.

     I.M.

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Francis’ Blessing for Immorality

TIA,

Re: Show of legs & shoulder rides at Krakow WYD

You wrote: "We are not sure whether the sight of Francis is a blessing sufficient to prevent normal sexual desires from exploding."

We can be assured that the sight of 'Punishment from God Francis I' is an affirmation to all at WYD for all explosive sexual contact at WYD, and to the entire world during and afterward. Party!

Remember: the goal of Vatican II is money, power, sex, as it was/is for Martin Luther - these three in any order and as often as possible. Anyone involved with it is assured that he will 'get these goals’ ... in any order and often, then, he will obtain Heaven with his dog.
Francis’ gives the same 'blessed assurance' of Martin Luther.

"Luther was a pig! Blasphemer! When he died he went directly to Hell!" - this is what a holy priest, scholar and author, age 76 - Fr. M. Martin, 1995 - told me about M. Luther.

Also Mother Mary Bosco, Superior General of the Daughters of Mary, told me about the morality of Vatican II: "It... is.... a.... sewer!"

These are my favorite golden nugget quotes. They say it 'all' … almost.

     Thank you for your work,

     E.K.

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Winston Churchill, Champion of Zionism

Dear TIA,

I had stumbled on this article written by Winston Churchill back in 1920 called: "Zionism vs. Bolshevism", arguing that Zionism would be beneficial in the cause against Bolshevism.

I am wondering if this was known to Winston Churchill to be false at the time he wrote it. As I understand it, at the time, most religious Jews didn't even believe in creating a modern state of Israel, and it was the non-religious Jews, like those involved in the Communist cause, that really started the state of Israel.

There is much to be taken from Churchill's article in light of our current situation with a Muslim invasion. Churchill was distinguishing between "good" and "bad" Jews, arguing that "good" Jews should be promoting the Zionist cause, because "bad" Jews are promoting Bolshevism.

In our day, we have "good" Muslims that just want to be productive citizens of their host country vs. "bad" Muslims who want to be terrorists.

Considering that the state of Israel is at the epicenter of the problems of today, I wonder if it was the plan all along to create a destabilization of the Middle East with the creation of the modern state of Israel.

     Yours truly,

     M.R.

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Zika, Pretext for Abortion

Dear TIA,

It seems that the uproar about Zika is an indirect way to promote abortion.

Please, read and disseminate this article.

Keep up the good work.

     C.F.

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Don’t Go to the Old Catholics

TIA,

I would like your thoughts on the following, please. I live in a rural area and go to a Catholic church here in town. It is of The Old Catholic persuasion started in 1870. At first they were not in full communion with the Roman Church. They reject communion with the Pope.

At the Vatican on 16 June 2000, Pope John Paul II ratified and ordered the publication of Dominus Iesus. This Declaration of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was signed and published by then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, in August of the same year.

In this declaration, the Roman Catholic Church recognized the validity of Orders and Sacraments of Old Catholic denominations in the following terms: “The Churches which, while not existing in perfect communion with the [Roman] Catholic Church, remain united to her by means of the closest bonds, that is, by apostolic succession and a valid Eucharist, are true particular Churches.”

Question 1: Don't we have to follow the Pope (even though this one is ummm questionable)?

Question 2: They are going to ordain a married man to the priesthood. In their church it is ok. Does this have any bearing on the Mass?? We use the altar Missal from 1941. It is the traditional Latin Mass. And I am almost sure they use an old (Old Catholic) ordinal to ordain priests. Is this valid to go to?

     Thank you very much for any help you can give.

     T.C.
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TIA responds:

T.C.,

The Dutch heresy of the Old Catholics received new momentum when the German priest Ignaz von Döllinger refused to accept the dogma of Papal Infallibility proclaimed by Pius IX in union with Council Vatican I (July 18, 1870). He refused to submit in 1871 and incurred excommunication by the Archbishop of Munich.

Since 1932 Old Catholics joined with the Anglican Sect. Now then, Pope Leo XIII expressly declared that the Anglican orders are invalid. So, it is probable that the same can be said of the orders of the Old Catholics, since they adhered to Anglicanism. Keep this in mind.

You may well be going to a bogus liturgy without any real “apostolic succession and valid Eucharist,” as you assumed, no matter what Missal they use.

Catholics do not go to Old Catholic religious ceremonies, just as they do not go to services in Protestant sects and Greek schismatics temples.

We believe the Schismatics are also heretics, since they deny several Catholic dogmas, including Papal Infallibility, as do the Old Catholics.

The 1983 Code of Canon Law wrongly told Catholics we could go to Schismatic temples if we live far from a Catholic church and that we can receive Communion with the Schismatics (canon 844 § 2).

This canon reflects the heresy of universal salvation, which has been spread by the post-conciliar Popes since Vatican II. It is one heresy covering for others. The same applies to the declaration Dominus Jesus that you quoted as favoring the Old Catholics.

Catholics should not go to Schismatic temples following the new Canon Law, just as they should not go to Old Catholic liturgies following the Dominus Jesus document.

This is the answer we can offer to your questions.

     Cordially,

     TIA correspondence desk



Posted September 15, 2016
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