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Re: YouTube Video of Volume II: Animus Injuriandi I
Excellent presentation.
The direct quotes and analysis makes this conceptually dense material accessible. The academic nature of this information can be intimidating and I really appreciate the manner it was presented.
Very often an analysis of Vatican 2 diverts in to Polemics. Polemics are great but many Catholics tend to shy away and they miss an opportunity to see the truth that the VC2 documents we not simply misinterpreted or misapplied but, these documents contain the revolutionary spirit we've seen unleashed on the Church and the world.
T.B.
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Francis’ Stang
Re: Pope Francis New Pastoral Staff at the Youth Synod
Is this man the Anti-Christ or a continuation of?
I've always said that no man can do worse than what Paul VI did; he took away the Mass. "Its better the sun and moon not shine than the Mass be taken away." – St. Leonard
J.P.
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A Converted Benedict?
Re: Ratzinger in a suit
I do wonder that there is a difference in the man between the later years of being Pope, and Ratzinger's early years before he held that office. Maybe I am ignorant, but there seemed to me to be a man changed by the office.
Too, I wonder that his present days in 'exile' have demonstrated the end result of progressivism and converted him even further.
Judging the man before his papacy maybe isn't fair?
Thank you for your fearless assessments which are born of honest research.
E.H.T.
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TIA responds:
E.H.T.,
Thank you for your sincere question. Perhaps you would benefit from reading these articles by Dr. Marian Horvat and Mr. Atila Guimarães on the continuity between the past progressivist ideas of Card. Ratzinger and those of Pope Benedict XVI. Please read them and, if you still have any doubt, please contact us again. Furthermore, you can find many other instances of Benedict's unbroken Progressivism just by going to our search page and typing in "Benedict."
Cordially,
TIA correspondence desk
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A Chinese Underground Catholic Speaks Out
I thought you would like to see this letter from a member of the Underground Church. It confirms much of what you are reporting. Discrimination for real Catholics at work and school, Masses once a week in dilapidated warehouses, checks on the faithful and priests.
A rebuke for the media and its silence and appeal not to forget them and pray for them. He doesn't seem to realize yet the total betrayal of Rome, but it isn't certain what information he has, since the media - including internet - are completely controlled by the government..
Thanks for being one media outlet that has not forgotten the persecuted and heroic Underground Church of China.
M.G.
From Asia News
Dear Fr. B.C.,
First of all I wanted to thank you for your interest in the Church in China, especially for the difficulties of the Church "faithful to Rome". At present, this Church is still "underground" and the mass media now speak very little of it, but you are still interested in us and our small and fragile Church. For this I am very grateful to our good God, that there are some brothers and sisters in the Lord in Rome, who have not forgotten us even though we are on the other side of the world.
I am just a simple believer. I did not grow up in a Christian environment: as you well know, China is an atheist country. Anyway, I've been a Christian for about 20 years. To be honest, believing in God is difficult, even more difficult for us who live in Chinese territory. Witnessing to my being a Christian here is practically impossible.
For example, it is impossible to declare that you are a Christian when you are enrolled in a school or go for a job interview. The consequence would be immediate exclusion from school or non-employment for that job. ...
Of course, what I have described is the situation that any faithful person can see from the outside, but there are also many things that are not seen. The local police often go to find the priests of the underground Church to invite them to "speak". Often what we call "churches", in reality are not churches, but rented premises or simple houses. They are not ideal environments for the celebration: some look like warehouses, with doors and windows, but crumbling.
What matters to us is to help the priest to have a place to celebrate the Mass with dignity, so that Catholics are not forced to celebrate in the open air. This is already enough for us. But how long can this last?
We do not know. Bad news is circulating right now. For example, members of the underground community in the neighboring rural community of XXX have already received a notification from the authorities. What will happen tomorrow? We do not know either, but what we see is that the situation is becoming more and more tense. What is certain, regardless of the future difficulties, is that we of the underground Church will keep the faith, as always. We follow the example of our old bishop, who has been missing for several years, who has been faithful to the end: remaining faithful to the teaching of the Church, with an unshakable faith, surpassing "one wave after another". The whole world has witnessed the testimony of faith of the Chinese Underground Church, in the past up to the present day; in the future it will be the same. "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword??" (Romans 8, 35).
I am writing to you as a simple believer of the Church in China. Although I did not write much, everything comes from my personal experience. The Chinese underground Church has endured many years of suffering, but we have "joy in tribulation", we do not accuse anyone and we do not hold a grudge against those who persecute us. Indeed, for them we redouble our prayers: "Father, forgive them! For they know not what they do!" (Luke 23, 34)
Father, please do not forget us, pray for these brothers and sisters who are suffering.
A simple believer of the Chinese underground Church.
I wish every good to you and to all of Rome!--
Anonymous
Posted October 11, 2018
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I had been familiar with the work of Atila Guimarães through the website Tradition In Action - however I had not read his 11 volume Collection Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani.
I recently had a chance to view the short videos on YouTube that walk the potential reader through the book series. I had never seen Mr. Guimarães before - but was very much impressed by his knowledge, decorum and insights into Vatican II. What a tremendous personality - it was a privilege to sit and listen to him.
I think these videos will go a long way in providing more extensive circulation of his ideas and work. I will certainly buy the entire collection in the near future, as a Christmas gift to myself.
Thank you for putting this video series together.
J.J.